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Fake Gold Bars in Fort Knox!

Seeded on Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:22 PM EST
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A recent discovery -- in October of 2009 -- has been suppressed by the main stream media but has been circulating among the "big money" brokers and financial kingpins and is just now being revealed to the public. It involves the gold in Fort Knox -- the US Treasury gold -- that is the equity of our national wealth. In short, millions (with an "m") of gold bars are fake!

Officials were shocked to learn that the bars were fake. They contained cores of tungsten with only a outer coating of real gold. What's more, these gold bars, containing serial numbers for tracking, originated in the US and had been stored in Fort Knox for years. There were reportedly between 5,600 to 5,700 bars, weighing 400 oz. each, in the shipment!

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Fulcrum

This is yet another story in the decline of America and capitalism -- a decline based on greed, deception and fraud.

  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:26 PM EST
Peter Merel

Auric Goldfinger lives!

But seriously ... if true ... this is astounding.

  • 6 votes
#1.1 - Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:17 PM EST
Peter Merel

Also interesting - this article just got zapped off the NV front page. I mean it went from (half an hour ago) #3 in my Top Seeds box to invisible. When I look at my top 100 Newsvine Columnists list also. Invisible.

Someone here doesn't like what you're writing, Fulcrum.

  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:06 AM EST
ScubaGolfJim

Other "news" headlines from this source:

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HAARP: Weapon of Total Destruction A weapon system with the potential to destroy everything.

9-1-1 Revisited. Were remote controlled planes used in this attack? There IS some evidence to support this theory.

You can know the future! A computerized "black box" can apparently predict future events.

You can now live forever... The biological reason we age and die has been discovered. A chemical can reverse this process. But, as usual, there's a catch.

The Ark of the Covenant is in Yemen A story in a little known, extremely rare language details what happened to the Ark.

LBJ Killed JFK A forgotten fingerprint suggests that a close associated of ex-president Johnson had more than a hand in the assassination of JFK.

Did Jesus visit Tibet? An unusual antique scroll depicts Jesus among the people of Tibet and China. Is it real?

When are psychic powers strongest? Surprisingly psychic abilities are at their peak when the center of the galaxy is directly overhead -- once every 24 hrs.

Soooo...

Now does ANYONE really want to believe this one?

Another fact: GOLD does not actually move. PAPER moves. It's all on paper and in computers.

  • 3 votes
#1.3 - Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:03 PM EST
Robert Blevins - AB of Seattle

The gold in Fort Knox is real. Inventories have been done previously right down to the tenth of an ounce of total holdings, and they check for fakes.

Are you sure this article didn't originate with the infamous 'Weekly World News'? No one manipulated the article. Cream has a way of rising to the top at the Vine, and the stories as interesting as a box of rocks end up at the bottom.

  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:50 PM EST
Pazalea

I like the way you write. I also believe the gold at Fort Knox is real. Most people don't even know where Fort Knox is. Ask around, see how few people know.

    #1.5 - Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:12 AM EST
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    T. Gracchus

    What is the source of this information?

    "I know a guy who says ..." doesn't work for me.

    There are certainly plenty of people who wouldn't mind a short-term dip in the price of gold.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#2 - Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:56 PM EST
    Fulcrum

    Both the Chinese government and MI6 now confirm reports that much of the gold sold by the Federal Reserve Board over the past decade is in fact gold plated tungsten.

    http://education.wallstreetsurvivor.com/node/2601

    still researching this story, may be bogus, may have legs ??????????

    • 3 votes
    #2.1 - Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:03 PM EST
    SchmittyJ

    Hosted on a site that is a gold investment company?

    Yeah... the bull@!$%# meter is pinging loudly...

    • 5 votes
    #2.2 - Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:01 PM EST
    ScubaGolfJim

    T. Gracchus

    Missing gold would create a surge in the price of gold. Supply and demand stuff, you know.

    • 1 vote
    #2.3 - Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:07 PM EST
    Mitigator

    Ron Paul made these claims described as a National Security Crisis over 12 years ago.

    When he ran for the presidential nomination not one word was ever mentioned.

    He stated no real audit had been done at Ft Knox for decades. Goldman Sachs and the Federal Reserve were considered to be a part of this deception.

    Gold-Eagle.com published a number of these papers from Mr Paul.

    Had he followed through when he had the public's ear I would have supported his nomination.

      #2.4 - Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:30 PM EST
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      brianfromPA

      I read a story a couple of years ago, and then another one recently on GlobalResearch.ca that was talking about this. The gold was liquidated as part of the Wall Street Carry Trade industry. Wall Street, and primarily Goldman Sachs run the United State Treasury, and moved this gold to pad profits.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#3 - Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:20 PM EST
      Fulcrum

      DEATH of the Dollar! Steve Quayle - 400 Oz. Gold Bars REPLACED at Fort Knox w/ Tungsten bars? 2/2
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZgiXZuAecQ

        Reply#4 - Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:41 PM EST
        Randilly

        Disturbing if true...... But my Bulls**t meter is going off like a geiger-counter in a reactor. The value of Gold is actually artificial. A function of markets. Tungsten, while cheaper than the artificial value of gold, is actually much more useful.

        This looks like a politically motivated, cock and bull story, by some fringe conspericy theorist.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#5 - Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:47 PM EST
        Gnostix1

        Agreed. What possible benefit would there be in replacing gold with tungsten when lead would be a closer match by weight and be much cheaper?

        This reminds me of a persistent rumor from a few decades ago that insisted a fast-food chain was serving earthworms instead of beef in its burgers. They pointed out that earthworms, pound for pound, are far more expensive....

        • 1 vote
        #5.1 - Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:23 PM EST
        Fulcrum

        If anyone were contemplating creating “fake” gold bars, tungsten [at roughly $10 per pound] would be the metal of choice since it has the exact same density as gold making a fake bar salted with tungsten indistinguishable from a solid gold bar by simply weighing it.

        http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1258049769.php

          #5.2 - Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:50 PM EST
          gnostic23-7

          hey, gnostix1---- tungsten has the same specific gravity as gold--- lead is too far off, could be detected gy simple weighing of the bars---- a tungsten core would require physical drill sampling to detect.

            #5.3 - Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:08 PM EDT
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            Simplistic Reality

            We have been off the Gold Standard for a long time. Our debt way outweighs or physical worth of Gold and other precious metals / resources. I don't buy this story at all.

            • 4 votes
            Reply#6 - Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:24 PM EST
            Gnostix1

            Ok, caught me on the tungsten weight issue: Tungsten = 19.25 gms/cc, gold = 17.19 gms/cc.

            This author pretty well demolishes the rumor, however:

            http://www.rapidtrends.com/2009/11/14/why-gold-bugs-are-considered-nuts/

            A lengthy discussion, which pretty much ends up dismissing the hoax here: http://www.chrismartenson.com/forum/tungsten-salted-gold-investment-scam-century/31370?page=1

            And "fun facts about the US Mint" include the observation that gold does not enter or leave "except for audits" shoots the conspiracy down in flames:

            http://www.usmint.gov/about_the_mint/fun_facts/index.cfm?flash=yes&action=fun_facts13

            • 1 vote
            Reply#7 - Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:01 PM EST
            freebirdreaming

            misinformation is easily proven. But you do not begin by shooting it down, you begin by looking for it to be true................. and go from there.

            wow, a few shills in here.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#8 - Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:35 AM EST
            Joe-1565058

            The gold in Fort Knox has not been physically audited since 1954.

              Reply#9 - Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:58 AM EST
              brainwavesurfer

              Just for your information:

              specific weigth of .......GOLD = 19,25g/cubic centimeter

              specific weigth of TUNGSTEN = 19,26g/cubic centimeter

              You need a high precision balance 7 1/2 digits at least to mesure the difference.

              But with that it is not so difficult to check for a difference. Anyway you can not amalgamate

              gold and tungsten. Tungsten melts at a temperature where gold evaporates. But you can mix tungsten powder into liquid gold. But the powder particles remain. With an ultra sound you can check for this powder too. Powder bounces back echos.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#10 - Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:55 AM EST
              L. Maxwell

              This story's been making the rounds in London for well over a year now.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmQDSxKBeGU

              • 1 vote
              Reply#11 - Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:50 AM EST
              phishna

              If Jews are running the gov't from behind the scenes

              and the Federal Reserve is a Jewish operation which will not allow an audit

              and if Israel Jews pulled 911 (including the gold heist in the bottom of the WTC)

              (see http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367&sid=2f5a1761f2dc9588e80da0cc4ce2b5f7&start=75)

              9-11 WTC Biggest Gold Heist in History: $300 ...
              5 min - Sep 26, 2008
              www.youtube.com

              and the Jews have religious doctrine to steal from the goy (especially if large sums are involved) actually they are commanded by god to act this way

              and the Jews have a prophecy that in the end times all of the King Solomen's wealth is returned to Israel

              and the Jews have a long history of robbing nations blind

              then it no stretch of the imagination to logically deduce that the Fort Knox gold heist was carried out by Jews and the real gold was transferred to Israel just as their god commanded and their prophecy predicted AND JUST AS THEY HAVE DONE THROUGHOUT THEIR OWN HISTORY ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE PHAROAH

              and if anyone who questions the theft of an entire nation is labeled antisemetic and those very "anti-hate" laws are sponsored by the most hateful anti Americans at the ADL (mossad spies/traitors) who are providing cover for these unimaginable crimes

              Phishna (see my essays http://www.blogger.com/profile/16312560191165755438)

              PS In related news billions of dollars of USA military hardware is being transferred and "stored" in Israel ()

              and that Israel is blackmailing the USA with nuclear weapons (www.rense.com/general35/isrnuk.htm)

              • 1 vote
              Reply#12 - Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:57 AM EST
              tribeseeker-1565499

              this link offers a lot more to the story that Fulcrum reports. Looks like phishna got it right: "doing gods work!"

              http://www.sott.net/articles/show/197099-GLD-ETF-Warning-Tungsten-Filled-Fake-Gold-Bars

              • 1 vote
              Reply#13 - Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:31 PM EST
              Fulcrum

              Nothing to see here..... move along. Honest!!! just 137 pages of formality's and disclaimers, why would we want to hide anything?

              On Aug. 5, The Federal Reserve responded to this FOIA request by adding two more documents to those disclosed to GATA in April 2008 from the earlier FOIA request. These documents totaled 173 pages, many parts of which were redacted (covered up to omit sections of text). The Fed's response also noted that there were 137 pages of documents not disclosed that were alleged to be exempt from disclosure.

              http://www.sott.net/articles/show/197099-GLD-ETF-Warning-Tungsten-Filled-Fake-Gold-Bars

              thanks tribeseeker,

                Reply#14 - Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:51 PM EST
                Romero-1606353

                "Anyway you can not amalgamate gold and tungsten. Tungsten melts at a temperature where gold evaporates. But you can mix tungsten powder into liquid gold. But the powder particles remain. With an ultra sound you can check for this powder too. Powder bounces back echos."

                I am not saying the conspiracy theory is true or not, but I believe they are talking about gold covered tungsten. Which would mean they melt the tungsten into bars and then melt the gold around the fake bars. So the thought that tungsten has a higher melting point and roughly the same weight would mean it could be true OR it could mean whoever first came up with the theory used tungsten because it fits his conspiracy best.

                I don't think anyone knows or can say for sure whether there is gold in Ft. Knox or not. The same websites that claim Pres. Johnson gave it away to England also claim it was given away long before Johnson ever came to Washington. And also it was given to the Chinese. Given to the World Bank, to Goldman Sachs, it was never there, in space, under the World Trade Towers, Area 51, up Cheney's butt, stuffed in the dead bodies of the Rockefellers... you get the idea.

                Also some claim it was put into the market to lower gold prices, others claim it would raise gold prices.

                Would it matter either way? Our money hasn't been based on gold since Nixon. Both paper money and the gold market are heavily manipulated anyway. Much like oil prices and anything else that gets traded. Stocks can be made to go down so friends can invest and then suddenly the stocks go back up. Just look at the investments in radio stations - when the station starts putting in bad radio hosts the stocks go down, then suddenly when all the owner's friends have bought into it at a low price suddenly the bad hosts are fired and good ones are put back in and stocks go back up.

                Gold is only worth what people are told it's worth by the people doing the trading. Buy at 1000 dollars for gold the size of two quarters and then try selling it at a jewlery shop, a pawn shop, a gold 4 sale type place, to your neighbor, etc, etc,etc, you'll never get the price back.

                Right?

                  Reply#15 - Wed Feb 3, 2010 6:50 PM EST
                  Randilly

                  I don't think anyone knows or can say for sure whether there is gold in Ft. Knox or not. The same websites that claim Pres. Johnson gave it away to England also claim it was given away long before Johnson ever came to Washington. And also it was given to the Chinese. Given to the World Bank, to Goldman Sachs, it was never there, in space, under the World Trade Towers, Area 51, up Cheney's butt, stuffed in the dead bodies of the Rockefellers... you get the idea.

                  I'd go with up Cheny's butt.

                    #15.1 - Wed Feb 3, 2010 7:24 PM EST
                    bitemore

                    #15.1: I'd go with up Cheny's butt.

                    It's certainly big enough...

                      #15.2 - Wed Feb 3, 2010 8:26 PM EST
                      CL1

                      Randilly and bitemore -- Ohhhhhhh, you guys!!

                      (I'd really like to know how you are so sure!)

                        #15.3 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 12:32 AM EST
                        bitemore

                        #15.3: (I'd really like to know how you are so sure!)

                        Well... I have this wide-screen TV, and it's still too small to accommodate a butt that size...

                        :-)

                          #15.4 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 2:26 AM EST
                          CL1

                          Hahahahahaha! Hmm, I wonder if he stashed some of those missing Pentagon trillions in his "trunk" - no wonder there won't be room for the gold.

                          New wide-screen TVs will be labelled - 60 in., 70 in, and Cheney-wide. :-)

                            #15.5 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 3:23 AM EST
                            bitemore

                            #15.5: New wide-screen TVs will be labelled - 60 in., 70 in, and Cheney-wide. :-)

                            Those will fit only into a room the length of a city block... Yeah - that would work!

                              #15.6 - Thu Feb 4, 2010 4:41 AM EST
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                              apms55

                              Fight back

                              Google: ultrasonic gold Pamp

                              Start now.

                              Best for all.

                                Reply#16 - Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:42 AM EDT
                                h5mindmentality

                                Dr. Ron Paul actually was on a congressional committee tasked with physically auditing the gold many years ago and instead of entering the vault, they were handed paper records of the bullion supposedly on hand. Entrance was denied to to issues of "national security". There has been no physical audit since Eisenhower's time. Remember this gold is listed as an asset not by the American people, but by the private banking cartel known as the Federal Reserve. And apparently, they are no more interested in having Congress audit their gold than they were to have them audit their other financial records. All laws proposed to do just that to date have been soundly defeated. The logical question is, 'why?"

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#17 - Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:10 PM EDT
                                Bard_

                                Easy solution, audit the gold.

                                I think Dr Ron Paul is on the right track here. I think one of his aims is to destroy the federal reserve (with good reason, its the mechanism that is the root of all the politcal corruption and the looting of the people of the united states - the center of gravity of the evil bastards that have the american people by the nuts).

                                You can play all sorts of games with the accounting paperwork that any audit of the fed would involve, but you cant fake the gold.

                                If this story is true, and it is found that the Fed has been covering up this problem, you can be sure that nothing less than a full and thorough audit would be demanded by the american people, which would expose MASSIVE fraud with none of the loopholes and limits that gutted the previous audit.

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#18 - Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:15 AM EDT
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